A recent conversation on racial equality
This is a transcript of a conversation I had recently with a bloke. Usually have this same sort of conversation with the same person about once every two or three months.
| … | Ryan Paul | question for you. |
| Ryan Paul | … | yep ? |
| … | Ryan Paul | what happens when the natives get the vote ie: make up +50% of the population |
| Ryan Paul | … | you mean generally ? |
| … | Ryan Paul | scheduled for 2024 or something like that |
| … | Ryan Paul | well I mean if half the population doesn’t pay tax what happens to the country |
| Ryan Paul | … | I’d like to think Canada will start to become the place I hope it can be |
| … | Ryan Paul | health care will crumble |
| Ryan Paul | … | That’s a complete misconception. |
| … | Ryan Paul | so will everything else |
| Ryan Paul | … | Natives pay tax |
| … | Ryan Paul | I know it varies from treaty to treaty |
| Ryan Paul | … | They don’t pay tax on their wages if they work on a reserve or for an organisation that’s on a reserve. |
| … | Ryan Paul | my point being |
| Ryan Paul | … | Healthcare won’t crumble – it’s crumbled already. |
| … | Ryan Paul | I think other peoples make our economic engines turn |
| Ryan Paul | … | Nothing will change… except the government will have to start listening to the needs of native people. |
| … | Ryan Paul | due to contributing more through taxation |
| Ryan Paul | … | the only thing that will change is natives will start to get what they are owed |
| … | Ryan Paul | Psssht |
| … | Ryan Paul | I should get what I am owed b |
| … | Ryan Paul | by picking up the slack |
| … | Ryan Paul | for everyone else |
| … | Ryan Paul | grrrr |
| Ryan Paul | … | A treaty is a deal between two parties. |
| Ryan Paul | … | Most of the deal’s haven’t been fully honoured. |
| … | Ryan Paul | ya but they call the mining act antiquated |
| … | Ryan Paul | nevermind the treaties |
| … | Ryan Paul | double standards |
| Ryan Paul | … | Like for instance… Anicinabe Park… is CLEARLY within the traditional land use area of Rat Portage… |
| … | Ryan Paul | lets all use it |
| Ryan Paul | … | 15million native voters… I can only dream |
| … | Ryan Paul | we are after all 1 nation |
| … | Ryan Paul | called canada |
| Ryan Paul | … | No let’s not all use it. Natives control somewhere around 1% of Canada |
| Ryan Paul | … | land |
| Ryan Paul | … | canadian land… |
| … | Ryan Paul | about as much as I do |
| … | Ryan Paul | hmm |
| … | Ryan Paul | LOL |
| Ryan Paul | … | the least we can do are a few things… |
| … | Ryan Paul | like pay tax |
| … | Ryan Paul | and not eat pop and chips and kfc every day |
| Ryan Paul | … | 1. at ANY cost, give control of sacred sites back to natives |
| … | Ryan Paul | then get diabetes and become a bigger burden |
| Ryan Paul | … | 2. stop and reverse any non-native organisation, company, person or government entity that has misappropriated land within reserve lines, and within traditional land use areas |
| Ryan Paul | … | 3. honour the treaties |
| Ryan Paul | … | 4. MAKE the police, judiciary and society stop treating natives as second class citizens |
| … | Ryan Paul | how about 1 get a jorb, 2 eat healthier, 3 join the general population |
| Ryan Paul | … | do all those things and there’d be peace… |
| Ryan Paul | … | 1. about 70% of natives i know have jobs. |
| … | Ryan Paul | yep |
| … | Ryan Paul | I know |
| Ryan Paul | … | 2. ALL natives I know have the same eating habits as non-natives |
| … | Ryan Paul | I like natives just not chabs |
| … | Ryan Paul | LOL |
| … | Ryan Paul | jk |
| Ryan Paul | … | Chabs ? |
| … | Ryan Paul | why do I fuk with u? |
| Ryan Paul | … | Uhhhh i know 😉 |
| … | Ryan Paul | ah the same reason u fuk with me |
| … | Ryan Paul | LOL |
| Ryan Paul | … | because you ARE on the wrong side of the argument |
| … | Ryan Paul | we like arguing with each other |
| Ryan Paul | … | and I’m on the right side but you fail to see it 😀 |
| … | Ryan Paul | I just don’t like being the mule |
| … | Ryan Paul | and thats what the avg white guy is these days |
| Ryan Paul | … | you don’t have to be. just support doing the right thing. |
| … | Ryan Paul | a damn mule |
| Ryan Paul | … | nope |
| Ryan Paul | … | that’s not true. |
| … | Ryan Paul | no? |
| Ryan Paul | … | land disputes will continue until Canada stops dragging its feet |
| … | Ryan Paul | how much tax did my buddy living on white dog pay? |
| Ryan Paul | … | depends on if he had a job on a reserve… |
| … | Ryan Paul | exactly |
| … | Ryan Paul | did I get paid to go to school? |
| … | Ryan Paul | how about my dental work and vision |
| … | Ryan Paul | ? |
| Ryan Paul | … | Canada has been putting natives last on its list of priorities for years. |
| … | Ryan Paul | how about the brand new trucks? |
| … | Ryan Paul | and homes? |
| Ryan Paul | … | When was the last time you heard a politician running for Prime Minister mention tackling native issues? |
| … | Ryan Paul | The issue is the inequality in terms of paying for the country to run |
| … | Ryan Paul | it falls on me |
| … | Ryan Paul | the hard working tax payer |
| … | Ryan Paul | I make the gears turn |
| Ryan Paul | … | it falls on everyone who’s profiting from the subjugation of the first people of this country… |
| … | Ryan Paul | me |
| … | Ryan Paul | I was born here as they were |
| … | Ryan Paul | I just am a diff color |
| … | Ryan Paul | so I get fuked |
| Ryan Paul | … | dude you’re not one of the first people’s race. you’re not being subjugated and being restricted from fulfilling your cultural destiny |
| … | Ryan Paul | Im just the guy who has to pay for it all |
| … | Ryan Paul | fun fun and very fair |
| Ryan Paul | … | you and i are both profiting from the alien domination and subjugation of the Indigenous people of Canada. We should pay, we must pay… we owe it to them to pay |
| Ryan Paul | … | http://www.intertribaltimes.ca/editorial/policing-in-kenora/ |
| … | Ryan Paul | above all I want fairness for me |
| … | Ryan Paul | I owe noone |
| … | Ryan Paul | except myself an honest living |
| Ryan Paul | … | the ground where you go home to every night is on the traditional land of natives. |
| … | Ryan Paul | and? |
| … | Ryan Paul | we took it |
| Ryan Paul | … | if you’re using it, u should pay… |
| … | Ryan Paul | they lost |
| … | Ryan Paul | we won |
| Ryan Paul | … | that’s right. |
| … | Ryan Paul | go after the romans for england then |
| … | Ryan Paul | see how far u get |
| Ryan Paul | … | Point is england is still populated and controlled by ENGLISH people… not Romans |
| … | Ryan Paul | pssht after cultural genocide |
| … | Ryan Paul | the celts are not there anymore |
| … | Ryan Paul | replaced with roman culture |
| Ryan Paul | … | Yes they are… all over Scotland… that’s still part of the U.K… they just moved |
| … | Ryan Paul | LOL how is ur boy? |
| … | Ryan Paul | doing well I hope |
| Ryan Paul | … | he’s doing excellently. |
| … | Ryan Paul | nice |
| … | Ryan Paul | good to hear |
| … | Ryan Paul | no war between u and his momma? |
| Ryan Paul | … | dunno… she’s Chief now… |
| … | Ryan Paul | Nice |
| … | Ryan Paul | nice more than I make |
| Ryan Paul | … | HAHAHAHAHAHAHA |
| … | Ryan Paul | I should form a tribe and become chief |
| … | Ryan Paul | thats horse shit |
| … | Ryan Paul | pay for what u use |
| … | Ryan Paul | tell her that |
| … | Ryan Paul | makes me sick |
| … | Ryan Paul | physically |
| Ryan Paul | … | She still pays taxes in town for stuff… just not on her wages. Why should she? She works on sovereign land for a sovereign people… |
| … | Ryan Paul | fuck that |
| … | Ryan Paul | she is canadian o |
| Ryan Paul | … | brb making a sandwich |
| … | Ryan Paul | k |
| Ryan Paul | … | marmite sandwich yummy |
| Ryan Paul | … | she is Aboriginal first… Canadian second |
| Ryan Paul | … | she never asked to be Canadian |
| … | Ryan Paul | I never asked either |
| … | Ryan Paul | but it happendd |
| … | Ryan Paul | had as much choice as her |
| Ryan Paul | … | You weren’t forced. You were born it. |
| … | Ryan Paul | same as her |
| Ryan Paul | … | No. The Canadian title and culture is forced upon her by our lot. |
| … | Ryan Paul | and on me |
| … | Ryan Paul | I would rather say fuck this country and break kenora off |
| … | Ryan Paul | take care of the local residents and thats it |
| … | Ryan Paul | including the reserves |
| … | Ryan Paul | cause they are locals too |
| … | Ryan Paul | and thats what counts |
| … | Ryan Paul | not race |
| … | Ryan Paul | or gender |
| … | Ryan Paul | take care of your own |
| … | Ryan Paul | and they are my own |
| Ryan Paul | … | next time you’re in Kenora i’ll show you some gravesites of children that were kidnapped at gunpoint and murdered in a school |
| … | Ryan Paul | quit thinking the worst or you won’t see the best |
| … | Ryan Paul | shit happens everday all over the world |
| Ryan Paul | … | i’m not thinking the worst. i just think it might help you to see the light if you see first hand some of the darker sides of Canada |
| … | Ryan Paul | The darker side that affects me is picking up the tab for people who are on welfare and don’t pay tax and yet expect everything to be handed to them. That goes for whites, blacks, natives or chinese. No mater what |
| … | Ryan Paul | give back what u take |
| … | Ryan Paul | it applys to the land and our country |
| Ryan Paul | … | absolutely. THAT INCLUDES THE LANDDDDDDDDD |
| Ryan Paul | … | give back their land and let’s all fuck off back to Europe |
| Ryan Paul | … | i’d do it |
| … | Ryan Paul | no way |
| … | Ryan Paul | I was born here |
| … | Ryan Paul | this is my home |
| … | Ryan Paul | my birth right |
| … | Ryan Paul | and what about the indians in the UK |
| … | Ryan Paul | LOL |
| … | Ryan Paul | the real indians |
| … | Ryan Paul | they belong there> |
| Ryan Paul | … | wot about them? |
| … | Ryan Paul | your regional isolationalist attitude just doens’t work |
| … | Ryan Paul | never will |
| … | Ryan Paul | people and species migrate |
| Ryan Paul | … | yup yup yup |
| … | Ryan Paul | always have always will |
| … | Ryan Paul | our coming here was supposed to happen or it wouldn’t have |
| Ryan Paul | … | i agree with that. |
| Ryan Paul | … | but the way it was done was bogus. |
| … | Ryan Paul | things turned our way worse in other areas of the world |
| … | Ryan Paul | genocide |
| … | Ryan Paul | compelte |
| … | Ryan Paul | ya there were a couple tribes lost here |
| … | Ryan Paul | but the poeple exist |
| Ryan Paul | … | I don’t think you’d be saying that if you were on the receiving end of the colonisation. Easy to say when you aren’t the victim. |
| … | Ryan Paul | I am of over taxation |
| … | Ryan Paul | due to a large part of the population not contributing and only taking |
| … | Ryan Paul | that isn’t just natives |
| Ryan Paul | … | They contributed their country, their land, their resources, their water, their lives and their culture. |
| … | Ryan Paul | we took that |
| … | Ryan Paul | they didn’t contribute it |
| … | Ryan Paul | LOL |
| … | Ryan Paul | either contribute or leave is what I think should happen |
| … | Ryan Paul | on welfare and can work? leave |
| … | Ryan Paul | didn’t pay your taxes this year leave |
| … | Ryan Paul | drink yourself to death leave |
| … | Ryan Paul | blame your problems on everyone else |
| … | Ryan Paul | leave |
| Ryan Paul | … | If you were a Yank you’d be a Republican |
| … | Ryan Paul | I care for the population |
| Ryan Paul | … | not the ones who need the care |
| … | Ryan Paul | yes the ones who can take and be thankful and then return |
| … | Ryan Paul | u shoot a lame horse |
| … | Ryan Paul | not feed it for life |
| Ryan Paul | … | i don’t agree with that one bit dude. |
| Ryan Paul | … | that’s not compassionate |
| … | Ryan Paul | it is so |
| … | Ryan Paul | pain is a horrible thing and releving that pain is compassion |
| … | Ryan Paul | oh and george bush is a fool |
| … | Ryan Paul | not a republican |
| … | Ryan Paul | I vote ndp or green |
| Ryan Paul | … | if the ndp were for boosting military spending i’ll vote for them |
| … | Ryan Paul | ya to ensure no revolts from unappreciative people who want no part of this country |
| … | Ryan Paul | we need to bring back the gallies |
| … | Ryan Paul | treason should result in death |
| Ryan Paul | … | nope we need to kick ourselves out and let the natives live in peace |
| … | Ryan Paul | shut up |
| … | Ryan Paul | we took it fair and square |
| … | Ryan Paul | we won |
| Ryan Paul | … | stole it through murder. NOT through war |
| … | Ryan Paul | that is war |
| … | Ryan Paul | murder and murder til one side caves |
| … | Ryan Paul | one side caved |
| … | Ryan Paul | therefore they should be thankful with whatever they get |
| … | Ryan Paul | and thankful they weren’t wiped out |
| … | Ryan Paul | could have been you know |
| … | Ryan Paul | easily |
| … | Ryan Paul | so sit back and enjoy |
| … | Ryan Paul | and be thankful for the good life you are allowed |
| … | Ryan Paul | anything more would be against the fabric of the universe |
| … | Ryan Paul | the way things are are the way they were supposed to be |
| Ryan Paul | … | If that’s the case, then if someone kicks your door in, and fires an Uzi into your face, then that’s alright because his might was bigger than yours. |
| … | Ryan Paul | yep |
| … | Ryan Paul | thats the way of the world |
| … | Ryan Paul | always has been |
| … | Ryan Paul | even before we got here |
| … | Ryan Paul | there was war here |
| … | Ryan Paul | tribes won and lost |
| Ryan Paul | … | You say yep now, but I think you’d have something different to say if it was your mother/sister/aunt/uncle/etc |
| … | Ryan Paul | yep |
| … | Ryan Paul | but I didn’t lose |
| … | Ryan Paul | all I know is I am sick of being taken advantage of by people who are not thankful for what they are given |
| … | Ryan Paul | welfare recipients etc etc etc |
| … | Ryan Paul | always more more more |
| Ryan Paul | … | i don’t think you are able to tell who’s grateful and who’s not |
| … | Ryan Paul | well I like others are reaching a point where I’m not gonna do it anymore |
| … | Ryan Paul | and think its the role of all canadians to take a stand against the tyranical ways of our govt |
| … | Ryan Paul | turning us all against each other |
| … | Ryan Paul | taking from everyone |
| … | Ryan Paul | making 1 people carry all peoples |
| … | Ryan Paul | its fucking shit and if you can’t see that you are ignorant and biased |
| … | Ryan Paul | life is about cooperation and compassion |
| … | Ryan Paul | not fuking everyone else over cause they aren’t the same as you |
| … | Ryan Paul | its bull shit through and through |
| Ryan Paul | … | nope nope. it’s a righteous and fair thing to do. |
| Ryan Paul | … | compassion is compensating for the horrors in Canada’s history |
| … | Ryan Paul | fuck off |
| … | Ryan Paul | compassion is working together for a common goal not trying to screw everyone else |
| Ryan Paul | … | Compassion is seeing the affects of our colonisation and doing something about it. |
| … | Ryan Paul | u are so fucking brain washed it isn’t funny |
| … | Ryan Paul | look at all sides not just one |
| Ryan Paul | … | I DO. I realise I’m profiting from their subjugation to a system that was forced upon them. I don’t mind paying taxes to compensate that. |
| … | Ryan Paul | fuck you then |
| … | Ryan Paul | they have to contribute as much as I or they are nothing |
| … | Ryan Paul | simple as that |
| … | Ryan Paul | individual by individual |
| Ryan Paul | … | Why should they not receive compensation for what happened to them? |
| … | Ryan Paul | what about me |
| … | Ryan Paul | and all of us |
| … | Ryan Paul | u think tearing a country apart serves anyone |
| … | Ryan Paul | ? |
| … | Ryan Paul | not at all |
| Ryan Paul | … | our race came here. there’s didn’t. |
| … | Ryan Paul | yes they did |
| Ryan Paul | … | nobody asking to tear Canada apart. |
| … | Ryan Paul | they migrated |
| … | Ryan Paul | migrated the same as us |
| Ryan Paul | … | that argument is ages old. 5000 years trumps 150 years |
| … | Ryan Paul | does it |
| … | Ryan Paul | what about we were all born here except you |
| … | Ryan Paul | u are biased and ignorant of both sides |
| … | Ryan Paul | and think your high mighty cookie cutter attitude is right |
| … | Ryan Paul | we are 1 nation |
| … | Ryan Paul | 1 |
| … | Ryan Paul | we need to start acting like it |
| Ryan Paul | … | Not in the slightest. The fact that you were born here does not matter. Your birth is upon the genocide. Your life and foundation was given to you as a direct result of the genocide |
| Ryan Paul | … | Which is fine. |
| Ryan Paul | … | But don’t act like it’s not |
| … | Ryan Paul | as is the UK |
| … | Ryan Paul | they built an empire on riches from here |
| … | Ryan Paul | get them to pay it back |
| … | Ryan Paul | fuck u and your high horse bull shit close minded attitutude |
| Ryan Paul | … | Fair compensation, no building on sacred sites, traditional or reserve land, and equality is what will fix the problems. |
| … | Ryan Paul | equality is not working me to death to make my way up the ladeer |
| … | Ryan Paul | equal rights are not special rights |
| … | Ryan Paul | lets all be the same |
| … | Ryan Paul | treated the same |
| … | Ryan Paul | contribute the same |
| … | Ryan Paul | it was up to them to defend it and they didn’t |
| … | Ryan Paul | their lose not mine |
| … | Ryan Paul | their weakness is my gain |
| … | Ryan Paul | as is the way of nature |
| Ryan Paul | … | nobody’s asking for special rights. |
| Ryan Paul | … | they’re asking to have their human rights respected |
| … | Ryan Paul | no |
| … | Ryan Paul | what about fishing rights |
| … | Ryan Paul | I have to buy a license |
| Ryan Paul | … | they’re asking for the United Nations decree on indigenous people to be respected. |
| … | Ryan Paul | what about no taxes |
| … | Ryan Paul | ? |
| … | Ryan Paul | that not a special right? |
| Ryan Paul | … | Canada thumbs it’s nose at the international community. |
| … | Ryan Paul | as it should PC bull shit |
| … | Ryan Paul | Perhaps its time I defend my country |
| Ryan Paul | … | no it shouldn’t. Canada is a part of the world community and should act like it. |
| … | Ryan Paul | and I promise I will be more successful |
| … | Ryan Paul | well the natives aren’t |
| … | Ryan Paul | they are as bad as china |
| … | Ryan Paul | for putting up walls |
| … | Ryan Paul | isolationist |
| … | Ryan Paul | bull shit |
| Ryan Paul | … | Nope they just want our lot off their sacred sites, and to stop building golf courses across burial grounds |
| … | Ryan Paul | u want to live the life you had go into the bush and disappear |
| … | Ryan Paul | thats between them and the builders not me |
| … | Ryan Paul | I pay taxes and send their kids to school and the dentist |
| … | Ryan Paul | I fly them from the rez for heart burn |
| … | Ryan Paul | I get to listen to high and mighty bull shit from outsiders and told to suck it up |
| … | Ryan Paul | fuck that |
| … | Ryan Paul | we need to band together |
| Ryan Paul | … | stop acting as if you’re not one of the non-native crowd. it’s plain and simple. Us and them. That’s how it is. That’s how it will always be. |
| … | Ryan Paul | not point at each other |
| … | Ryan Paul | I am native to canada |
| … | Ryan Paul | I was born here |
| … | Ryan Paul | this is my home |
| … | Ryan Paul | my country |
| … | Ryan Paul | my land |
| … | Ryan Paul | this is canada |
| … | Ryan Paul | and many people call it home |
| … | Ryan Paul | they are called canadians |
| … | Ryan Paul | and should act like it |
| Ryan Paul | … | Going on that premise if some woman kicked in your front door, and had a baby in your hall, that baby would have a right to live there. LIfe just does not work like that. |
| … | Ryan Paul | evidently so get over it |
| … | Ryan Paul | suck it up cause I have to |
| … | Ryan Paul | and start being self sufficient as I am |
| … | Ryan Paul | have some fucking pride |
| Ryan Paul | … | Your attitude of forcing people to do things they don’t want to do isn’t right. |
| … | Ryan Paul | I don’t want to pick up the slack |
| … | Ryan Paul | how is that fair to me |
| … | Ryan Paul | or u |
| … | Ryan Paul | not at all |
| … | Ryan Paul | if you want to see a dentist pay for it |
| … | Ryan Paul | if you want a truck pay for it |
| … | Ryan Paul | want a home |
| … | Ryan Paul | ? |
| Ryan Paul | … | Once again… because you are stopping them from fulfilling their cultural destiny. |
| … | Ryan Paul | pay for it |
| … | Ryan Paul | this is their destiny |
| Ryan Paul | … | Your presence here is colonising them. |
| … | Ryan Paul | grow up and welcome to the real world where a man makes himself |
| … | Ryan Paul | so what |
| Ryan Paul | … | That’s YOUR real world. |
| Ryan Paul | … | NOT theirs. |
| … | Ryan Paul | it has happened all over the world |
| Ryan Paul | … | They have a different way of doing things. |
| … | Ryan Paul | well their world will go up in fire if they don’t stop being FUCKING STUPID |
| … | Ryan Paul | put up or shut up |
| … | Ryan Paul | that means contribute and be thankful like me |
| Ryan Paul | … | It’s not about being stupid. It’s about a people who want the freedom to do things their way, the way they please.. .the way that worked excellently for the last 5000 years before we came along and fucked it all up. |
| … | Ryan Paul | so vote |
| … | Ryan Paul | thats how I get to determine the direction of this country |
| … | Ryan Paul | look at what good it does me |
| … | Ryan Paul | nothing |
| … | Ryan Paul | I gotta jet though |
| Ryan Paul | … | Your ENTIRE argument is based upon FORCING a people to do something. |
| Ryan Paul | … | ahhh okay |
| Ryan Paul | … | Do get back to me though eh… nice showing you that you are as ever….. WRONG hahahaha |
| … | Ryan Paul | I am right |
| … | Ryan Paul | cooperation builds |
| … | Ryan Paul | segregation destroys |
| … | Ryan Paul | we learned that and so should they |
